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On 12/05/2010 07:59 PM, Martin Lynch wrote:
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<pre wrap=""><div class="moz-txt-sig">On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 11:38 AM, Martin Lynch
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<pre wrap=""><span class="moz-txt-citetags">> </span>Have been using MythTV for about four years, and love it. I recently
<span class="moz-txt-citetags">> </span>switched from Rogers to Bell here in Toronto. Previously, I had a firewire
<span class="moz-txt-citetags">> </span>connection between the Rogers STB and my MythTV box, which worked fairly
<span class="moz-txt-citetags">> </span>well (except for the many 5C encrypted channels). The new Bell 9241 HD PVR
<span class="moz-txt-citetags">> </span>STB does not have a firewire output (unlike in the US, there is no mandate
<span class="moz-txt-citetags">> </span>in Canada that providers must include a functioning firewire port). So I've
<span class="moz-txt-citetags">> </span>begun some research on how to get my beloved MythTV working with the new
<span class="moz-txt-citetags">> </span>box. What seems to be the most common solution I'm coming across is to
<span class="moz-txt-citetags">> </span>connect the STB to a Hauppage HD PVR 1212 via component cables. I assume
<span class="moz-txt-citetags">> </span>(but am not certain) that the 1212 then connects via USB to the MythTV box.
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<span class="moz-txt-citetags">> </span>Is this considered the best approach?
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<pre wrap="">That seems to be the current best practice if your channels are
encrypted. Of course if they are unencrypted you could use a DVB-S (S
for satellite) card to record them.
With the HDPVR you are restricted to recording one channel per STB/HDPVR combo.
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<pre wrap=""><span class="moz-txt-citetags">> </span>Are there viable alternatives (I
<span class="moz-txt-citetags">> </span>assume any alternative will ultimately need to use component cables from the
<span class="moz-txt-citetags">> </span>STB - correct? Or are there HDMI solutions? I did some reading on the HD
<span class="moz-txt-citetags">> </span>Fury, but that just seems to me to be a way to turn an HDMI signal into a
<span class="moz-txt-citetags">> </span>component signal to subsequently feed an additional unit (like the 1212) in
<span class="moz-txt-citetags">> </span>the chain - correct?)?
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<pre wrap="">Yes but what it comes down to in the end is getting a component feed
to the hdpvr, if your stb only has hdmi out you will be forced to use
a HDFury, but if it has component out there is no need to get a Fury.
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<pre wrap=""><span class="moz-txt-citetags">> </span>From what I've read of the HD PVR 1212, I'll likely
<span class="moz-txt-citetags">> </span>want to/have to upgrade my graphics card to one with VDPAU, so I'm currently
<span class="moz-txt-citetags">> </span>looking at ~$200 for the 1212 and another ~$100 for something like an NVidia
<span class="moz-txt-citetags">> </span>8600.
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<pre wrap="">Go for a 220 if you can.
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<pre wrap=""><span class="moz-txt-citetags">> </span>Some additional questions: I currently have a Hauppage PVR-350, which I used
<span class="moz-txt-citetags">> </span>as a second tuner for SD programming. Am I correct in assuming I cannot use
<span class="moz-txt-citetags">> </span>the coaxial output from the Bell STB, nor the wall coax out, as an input for
<span class="moz-txt-citetags">> </span>the PVR-350?
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<pre wrap="">If the STB has composite or s-video out you could feed the PVR350 with
it, but you will only get SD resolution because thats all
s-video/composite will do and that's all the PVR350 will do.
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<pre wrap=""><span class="moz-txt-citetags">></span>I should clarify that the Bell system uses a satellite dish on
<span class="moz-txt-citetags">> </span>the top of my building tower to feed individual units (the building is also
<span class="moz-txt-citetags">> </span>wired for IPTV/Fibre TV, however because of an administrative issue, only
<span class="moz-txt-citetags">> </span>random units in the building can actually sign up for IPTV). Also, strictly
<span class="moz-txt-citetags">> </span>out of curiosity, why can't a coaxial cable be used for HDTV?
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<pre wrap="">Because you are confusing the digital signal that comes from the
satellite (or cable company) and the analogue signal that you need to
record.
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<pre wrap=""><span class="moz-txt-citetags">></span>The HDTV
<span class="moz-txt-citetags">> </span>signal, after all, gets to the STB via coaxial. Or is it the case that it
<span class="moz-txt-citetags">> </span>could carry HDTV signals but it has intentionally been disabled? OK, one
<span class="moz-txt-citetags">> </span>last one: the Bell 9241 has two tuners, however I can't seem to think of a
<span class="moz-txt-citetags">> </span>way to use both tuners in MythTV, as it seems there's only one output signal
<span class="moz-txt-citetags">> </span>(ie the second tuner can record while the first is also recording or
<span class="moz-txt-citetags">> </span>watching live TV, but only one output can be selected at any one time). Are
<span class="moz-txt-citetags">> </span>there any workarounds? Or, presuming the PVR-350 can't work with this
<span class="moz-txt-citetags">> </span>STB/coax signal, in order to get two tuners, would I need to have two STBs
<span class="moz-txt-citetags">> </span>connected to two HD-PVR 1212s?
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<pre wrap="">yes see above.
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</font>Many thanks, Nick - exactly what I was looking for!<br>
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Kind regards,
Martin</pre>
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How are you going to change channels on the Bell box? I use
firewire for that one a Shaw box in West Canada and it works well,
though I have been thinking about going with Bell too.<br>
Are you going IRBlaster to change channels?<br>
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