On 04/06/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Steven Adeff</b> <<a href="mailto:adeffs.mythtv@gmail.com">adeffs.mythtv@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<div><span class="gmail_quote"></span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
On 6/4/07, Mark Kendall <<a href="mailto:mark.kendall@gmail.com">mark.kendall@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>> On 6/4/07, James Buckley <<a href="mailto:xanium4332@googlemail.com">xanium4332@googlemail.com</a>> wrote:
<br>> > I'll take the lack of response to this question that the info is probably<br>> > wrong/inaccurate?<br>><br>> I think it's probably because it wasn't entirely clear what you were asking :)
<br><br>yups.</blockquote><div><br>Hmm, okay forget that question then...<br> </div><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">> > Alternatively, I'm wondering whether HDMI capable STBs and DVD players also
<br>> > calculate the (equivalent) modeline based on the TV's EDID info, or just use<br>> > some inbuilt timing information for the common formats (720p, 1080i, 1080p).<br>> > Anyone know anything about this, or have some standard HD modelines that
<br>> > should work on most HDMI inputs.<br><br><br>most set top boxes are dumb in this regard, they don't use the EDID at<br>all requiring the user to properly set them up. EDID is basically<br>useless for most TV's as the values are wrong. Some are correct
<br>though, and some companies have even fixed the wrong EDID information<br>in firmware updates.<br><br>Your best bet is to use one of the modeline database standard<br>modelines, or the NVidia modepool (both explain in the mythtv wiki).
<br>As these use the standard ATSC settings and should work on all TV's.<br>You may need to disable usage of some parts of the EDID detection to<br>get them to work properly.<br><br>> If you run x with verbose logging (can't remember the command line
<br>> option off the top of my head), it will give you endless detail on<br>> what your monitor returns as acceptable modelines and (most<br>> importantly) the description it uses for those in-built modelines. So
<br>> for example, my Xorg/monitor combination has an 'inbuilt' modeline<br>> that it calls 1920x1080_100i - for PAL 1080i.</blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
></blockquote><div><br>You have a monitor capable of 100Hz, wow! <br></div><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">> STB's appear to query the display for supported input formats. My
<br>> hidef freeview box (now useless...) reports the supported resolutions<br>> correctly.</blockquote><br></div><br>