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</span><div>Myth does PiP, quite well in fact.</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br>
Uh, no, no it does not. I can't get SD and HD aspect ratios
correct, HD is too wide and SD is too squished when in a window.
Plus my frontend crashes when I PIP two SD images. And I can't
adjust the size or specific location of the PIP. Or PIP recorded
shows. Or sisde by side PIP with standard myth. So no, it does
not do it very well.<br>
</div><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div style=""><div><span class="q"><blockquote type="cite">
My HD card looks great in Myth, the SD 500 card is a turd even with the
driver fixes. And I don't have lots of slots to use.
Maybe I send back my 500 and trade out to two 150s? I assume they
don't have the same crap quality of the 500 right now. But
apparently the 500 is a software problem, so I can't even really
justify a return. Why did they have to screw us by change the
hardware? Idiots. <br><br></blockquote><br></span></div><div>I
wouldn't say "Idiots" just typical American businessmen. I suspect they
don't really even do the development but contract that out to some
outfit in Taiwan/China. Outfits like that use whatever tuner modules
are the cheapest or most easily available, counting on simply changing
the Windows drivers to make them compatible with the applications that
they promise will work.</div></div></blockquote><div><br>
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Blame the Americans! Dirty dirty americans! Why do you sell
me stuff so cheap? To enslave the world HA HA HA </evil
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</div><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div style=""><div>It may well be the case that the tuner modules used in earlier versions of the cards are not even available any longer.
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It is probably cost.<br>
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</div><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div style=""><div>Unfortunately
the Linux market is not of great interest to them. Their (quite
possibly wrong) perception is that it is not a large enough market
segment to matter to them. The IVTV folks do a good job under the
circumstances, but they have a never-ending thankless task.</div></div></blockquote><div><br>
The IVTV guys have copies of the tech specs they won't share with
others. They got a marginally decent driver working, but have not
tweaked it to get a good pictures.<br>
</div><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div style=""><div>Hauppauge
might well want to release the specs needed to write a good driver, but
they probably don't own the rights to allow them to do so, and the
folks that do won't release the information because obviously you might
use that information to spend thousands of $$$s to build your own board
when you could buy one for $99 :-)</div></div></blockquote><div><br>
I think they use standard components, so any idiot could knock off a
copy if they wanted. This is not a super secret high-tech GPU
with custom components, I think all the stuff is standard.<br>
</div><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div style=""><div>So I don't
blame Hogpaws, except in the general sense that American manufacturers
have sold their souls in the pursuit of a lower price, but they might
well be out of business if they had not done so.</div><div><br></div></div></blockquote></div><br>
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Blame the americans twice! Dirty americans. dirty dirty. I fart in your general direction! <br>
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I am still not so sure <span class="regtext">Hauppauge is US based. They could be German. If anyone knows evil, it would be the deutschers...<br>
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