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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>> <span class=GramE>although</span> I can think of a few times I've
been kissing my girl on the couch while navigating the UI, and<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'>> <span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>I</span></font></span>
didn't know if the remote was going anywhere because I could not hear it<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>That is just wrong in so many ways<span class=GramE>…;</span>)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> mythtv-users-bounces@mythtv.org
[mailto:mythtv-users-bounces@mythtv.org] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Steve Dorsey<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> </span></font><st1:date
Month="2" Day="25" Year="2006"><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>Saturday, February 25, 2006</span></font></st1:date><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> </span></font><st1:time
Hour="1" Minute="5"><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'>1:05 AM</span></font></st1:time><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Discussion about mythtv<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [mythtv-users] Button
feedback in Myth UI</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>I totally agree. It's not so important in the main
interface of MythTV, where you get button feedback in the form of menu options
being highlighted or chosen (although I can think of a few times I've been
kissing my girl on the couch while navigating the UI, and I didn't know if the
remote was going anywhere because I could not hear it). <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'> Audio feedback is a very basic element in any
media UI. Optional, of course. You'd need to be able to shut it off if it
annoys you).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'> I'd be happy to create beep sounds if needed. I
work with audio and waveforms regularly.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>On </span></font><st1:date Month="2" Day="24"
Year="2006">Feb 24, 2006</st1:date>, at <st1:time Hour="21" Minute="52">9:52 PM</st1:time>,
Dave Hofstra wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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12.0pt;margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>mine plays those sounds simultaneously, but then I am
using the default oss device.. Pretty funny how things work different for
different people...<br>
<br>
There really should be a button feedback option in the myth setup menu at this
point, I have a really fast computer, and there is still lag when opening
mythmusic or something, and it would sure be nice to have feedback on the
buttonpresses so that you know when you hit a keystroke. <br style='mso-special-character:
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span class=gmailquote><font
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>On </span></font></span><st1:date
Month="2" Day="24" Year="2006"><span class=gmailquote>2/24/06</span></st1:date><span
class=gmailquote>, <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Steve Dorsey</span></b>
<<a href="mailto:info@dorseygraphics.com">info@dorseygraphics.com</a>>
wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>your solution works great, except that it does
not beep when I FFWD or RW during playback or live TV. The aplay app stores the
keypresses and plays them back when I jump back into a MythTV menu.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep
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style='font-size:12.0pt'>heh - pretty funny.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'>thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>On Feb 24, 2006, at 2:25 PM, Dave Hofstra wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'>Per something I found on the wiki somewhere, in the
'General' setup section you can put something like "aplay -q
/path/to/sound/file/soundfile.wav" in the 'keypress application'
area. This is a hack, but now that I have done it it works quite
well. Note that I had to restart the frontend application to notice the
change. Also note that it works for LIRC keypresses, not the ones on the
keyboard. <br>
<br>
The knoppmyth link led me to a thread with some pretty cool sounds, but they
were a little obtrusive while browsing music.<br>
<br>
I use the mediaportal software for myth-like functionality on my M$
Laptop. Mediaportal ( <a href="http://www.team-mediaportal.com/"
target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://www.team-mediaportal.com/</a>)
has a really nice little click sound for their cursor movements. I tried
it in myth and it works beautifully. <br>
<br>
You can download thier butcher 2 theme at <a
href="http://www.team-mediaportal.com/component/option,com_remository/Itemid,35/func,select/id,11/"
target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://www.team-mediaportal.com/component/option,com_remository/Itemid,35/func,select/id,11/</a><br>
and find the cursor.wav file in the sound directory (it is the same sound as in
the main program's theme, just a smaller download.) <br>
<br>
I will also host the file for anyone that is too lazy, but please email me
right away if you think it is some kind of violation. I dont think so cuz
the project is open-source, and the dev's have been nice to me with other
things in the past. <br>
<br>
<a href="http://lisadaveh.home.comcast.net/myxer/cursor.wav" target="_blank"
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://lisadaveh.home.comcast.net/myxer/cursor.wav</a><br>
<br>
let me know what you think about possibly putting this in the wiki. I
suppose I could ask permission from one of the MediaPortal dev's and see if
they'd allow our wiki to host the file or something. <br>
<br>
Dave Hofstra<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>On 2/22/06, <b><span
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href="mailto:info@dorseygraphics.com" target="_blank"
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Hello<br>
<br>
Is there a way to assign a beep sound to the button selections in <br>
the MythTV UI? So that when I select items in a menu, I get a<br>
"click" or "beep"? I loved this feature in my Tivo because
I got <br>
audible confirmation when I pressed a button (very handy when forward- <br>
searching using 3 speeds of search).<br>
<br>
I'd be happy to create some nice audio files to use for this<br>
feature if need be.<br>
<br>
Thanks, <br>
<br>
----------------------S<br>
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