[mythtv-users] x-box or cheap PC for frontends?

Phill Wiggin wigginp at mantech-wva.com
Tue Mar 16 14:52:51 EST 2004 

Sorry, "LiveCD" might have been something of a misnomer.  I boot my Xbox 
with the "Boot from CD" option of MythTV-0.14-1 / XBOX Release 0.3 (see: 
http://bit.blkbk.com/ for more details).  It runs just like a LiveCD 
with no install to the hard drive.

I can't point you to an .iso since each person's configuration is 
different. You modify the mount points in /etc/fstab, your network 
settings, etc. as required by your network setup. After you've made your 
network-specific changes, you create an iso out of that, then burn the 
resulting iso to a CDRW.  (I had _no_ luck with Memorex, but YMMV)

If you have any questions on getting it set up, I'll do what I can. :)

--Phill W.

Peter Loron wrote:

> Which Live CD are you using? Pointers to .iso? Thanks!
>
> -Pete
>
> Phill Wiggin wrote:
>
>> I'm also running the Xbox Myth frontend. I installed a mod chip 
>> rather than using a software hack.  (I'm using the Chameleon v1.0 ... 
>> check www.easybuy2000.com for more info) As an alternative to 
>> installing linux on your xbox, you can boot from a "LiveCD" version.  
>> This lets you boot it entirely off of a removable CDRW, so you don't 
>> have it actually installed on the hard drive.  (On my xbox, the 
>> booting process takes approximately 5-10 minutes from power-on to 
>> Myth-Love)  I'm using the Svideo/digital audio A/V pack, and it works 
>> fine.
>>
>> Anyone else booting from a LiveCD?  Are your load times similar?  
>> I've also noted some problems booting the CD occasionally, but 
>> cycling the power seems to get it to work.
>> --Phill W.
>>
>> Bill Bradley wrote:
>>
>>> Well it depends on how you want to install linux on it.  You can use 
>>> the software mod with MechAssault to install linux.  This will allow 
>>> you to install to the save game partition.  If you have a mod 
>>> chipped xbox, you flash the bios and replace the hard drive with a 
>>> larger model and just run linux.  I used the software mod.  This 
>>> requires that the MS Dashboard be of a certain version. MS updated 
>>> the dashboard via xbox live to fix the vulnerability that allowed 
>>> you to run unsigned code from the MEchAssault save game.  I bought a 
>>> refurbed box off of ebay, figuring that it would have the original 
>>> dash on it and I lucked out.  There is a step by step guide and an 
>>> xbox hardware db @ http://xbox-linux.sourceforge.net/ that you will 
>>> want to check out....
>>>
>>> As far as video inputs, if I was using the wrong terms...I meant the 
>>> standard "Yellow, Red, White" input connectors.  I dont have the 
>>> svideo kit, so I dont know if this works or not.  Check the 
>>> http://xbox-linux.sourceforge.net/ site for more info...
>>>
>>> On Monday 15 March 2004 10:54 pm, malcolm wrote:
>>>  
>>>
>>>> That sounds very promising.  If I'm understanding the way you are
>>>> explaining; You installed Dennis's xbox Myth to the hard drive 
>>>> which frees
>>>> up the DVD player so it's also a DVD player?  Sounds cool.
>>>>
>>>> Are there any differences in x-boxes I should know about?  Or can I 
>>>> just
>>>> hit ebay and pick pretty much any xbox with remote?
>>>>
>>>> You mentioned component video does not work but you use the composite.
>>>> Aren't those the same thing?  Sorry I'm not a video genius ;)
>>>> My TV will just be using s-video or coax so as long as xbox has one of
>>>> those out I'm good.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Malcolm
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Bill Bradley" <wbradley at bham.rr.com>
>>>> To: "Discussion about mythtv" <mythtv-users at mythtv.org>
>>>> Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 8:53 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] x-box or cheap PC for frontends?
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>> it works great.  i bought a 2nd xbox just run a frontend on.  I 
>>>>> use the
>>>>>     
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> def
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>> encode settings with my PVR 250 @ 640x480 with no problems.  I use 
>>>>> Dennis
>>>>> Cartier's (mentioned on this list and xbox-linux user) modified 
>>>>> Xebian
>>>>>     
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 1.0.1
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>> (minimal stripped for myth) and so far it does everything my other
>>>>>     
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> frontend
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>> does.  It includes support for the xbox dvd playback dongle for 
>>>>> remote
>>>>> control.   If you dont like the xbox remote, there is a hack to get a
>>>>> stabdard USB IR receiver working. Picture and sound are clear 
>>>>> right out
>>>>> of the box, plus no compiling.  Just install , reboot, and voila.  
>>>>> The
>>>>> only tweaking is b4 the install you have to edit the config file for
>>>>> mount
>>>>>     
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> points,
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>> interfaces and mysql.txt.
>>>>>
>>>>> The only issue I am aware of is Component Video.  It does not work in
>>>>> this release of Xebian (I could be wrong).  I use standard Composite
>>>>> Video and
>>>>>     
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> it
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>> looks fine...but then I dont have an HDTV....  You may want to 
>>>>> check the
>>>>> xbox-linux user list over at sourceforge.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Monday 15 March 2004 08:15 pm, malcolm wrote:
>>>>>    
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey guys,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm finally at the point of expansion where I'd like to make a Myth
>>>>>> frontend box for my basement.  I want it to be able to play
>>>>>> pre-recorded shows and possably watch live TV with pause 
>>>>>> functionality.
>>>>>> Having it
>>>>>>       
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> also
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>>> double as a DVD player would be cool but not required.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Quite honstly I don't think I could build a tiny cheap PC even 
>>>>>> close to
>>>>>>       
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> the
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>>> cost of an X-box.
>>>>>> So I'm wondering from those that have actually used an x-box for a
>>>>>>       
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> frontend
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>>> is how well does it work?  Is sound and picture clear and nice or 
>>>>>> does
>>>>>>       
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> it
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>>> take lots of fiddeling and tweaking to make it work?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What about a remote?  I assume the x-box has an IR receiver on it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If it makes any difference I capture with the Myth's default 
>>>>>> settings
>>>>>> of 4500 on video and 384 kb/s on the audio with a 350/250 combo.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Or if there are any other cheap combo PC type solutions out there 
>>>>>> I'd
>>>>>> be interested to hear about them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>> Malcolm
>>>>>>
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