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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Surely if the proponents of this idea were prepared to spend
actual money to provide hosting of the data, it would be better spent on TVDB
itself rather than by trying to produce a replica of it?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>The idea of distributing the content and therefore the workload
has some merit, however I for one would not be a big fan of a half-baked
bittorrent solution. To do it properly would be a considerable piece of
work, and quite frankly – I think it would be easier all round to just
fix the problem at the source (i.e. invest in TVDB) if there is genuine
interest in the concept.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Finally, you probably need to consider the legal ramifications
of distributing this kind of content. Arguably it is all copyrighted
material, and is being distributed without permission. Presumably the
operators of TVDB have their own legal advice and that’s their choice,
but I can’t really see the Mythtv project getting into the content
distribution game.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> mythtv-dev-bounces@mythtv.org
[mailto:mythtv-dev-bounces@mythtv.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jay Merrifield<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 23 September 2009 3:21 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Development of mythtv<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [mythtv] Brainstorming a new idea for the program guide<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>lol, there's a reason I asked
the mailing list before I started coding. So it sounds like this is a no-go
without some kind of real cheap source of the files. I'm certain TVDB would
allow us to grab their images and host them somewhere else to reduce the load
on them, especially if we give them credit (think a byline somewhere, or a
watermark on the images). So then it comes to where could we host the images?
And how much would it cost? <br>
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Bittorrent is definitely a solution especially since with htpcs, they're often
always on. A lot of media software uses bittorrent to download all kinds of
files off the internet. I think the largest downside to that is the problems
with configuring a bittorrent client properly in this day and age of NATs and
routers and the backlash of people who say that the bittorrent client is
destroying their internet connection. <br>
<br>
Another idea is storing it in a cloud like Amazon S3, but again, that costs
money. I'm wondering if anyone has ever considered an approach like the
"Premium Themes" of PS3. Where the normal service is free, but if you
want a few nicer perks and cool flashy gizmos, you pay a little bit of money.
Though I have no idea how to avoid people viewing this as opening pandora's box
where slowly more and more new features are moved into the "premium"
category while the free users get left in the dust. I know there was huge
backlash when myth was moved to schedules direct.<br>
<br>
3rd idea would be getting a corporate sponsor. Having a large organization with
tons and tons of bandwidth donating some of it to us. Like maybe if we
approached google or someone else who supports open source software and getting
them to donate some space for us to push the envelope in terms of features. <br>
<br>
All in all this feature isn't complicated to do, it's just the economics of the
matter.<br>
<br>
Thoughts?<br>
Jay<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Stuart Morgan <<a
href="mailto:stuart@tase.co.uk" target="_blank">stuart@tase.co.uk</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On Tuesday 22 Sep 2009 17:47:38
Jeff wrote:<br>
> Perhaps tmdb will have to implement a subscription fee for the HD artwork,<br>
> but could provide lower-resolution artwork for free. I'm sure there
will<br>
> be users that complain about a fee, but at the same time, there will
be<br>
> many who understand the economy, and that servers, electricity, and<br>
> internet bandwidth all cost money, and would be glad to subscribe to
their<br>
> services for the HD artwork -- especially if it's a choice between
"We<br>
> have to do this, or shut down..."<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>I suspect that the core users of TVDB with applications like
XBMC would rather<br>
it died that pay anything for it. It's simply their pattern of behaviour, they<br>
don't understand (or care) that these things need to be paid for.<br>
<br>
--<br>
<span style='color:#888888'>Stuart Morgan</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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